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Sony DCR-PC100

I recently picked up the Sony DCR-PC100 camera through a friend from Japan.  I own the Sony TVR9 also but just like my digital still cameras, I found that because the TVR9 is not small enough to fit in my pocket I almost never used it.  By that I mean that I’ve owned many digital still cameras and it turns out of if it’s not small enough to fit in my pocket I won’t use it.

At the time I purchased the TVR9 the 2 things that made me choose it over the DCR-PC1 which was the latest small video camera from Sony at the time. (1) the TVR9 had nightvision mode which allows you to see in the dark using infrared light.  It sounds like a cool idea but for the most part it’s really just a gadget and is not a good reason to buy a camera unless you really have a use for it. (2) was that the TVR9 had video inputs so I could record video games directly which could be important for my work.  But, like I said as it turned out I didn’t use the camera at all because of it’s size.

So, recently I was making plans for a vacation and I decided I’d look into getting a small video camera and I found out Sony had this new model, the DCR-PC100.  At the time of this writing it is not available in the United States yet.

What does it do that’s so cool?  Well unlike most digital consumer video cameras it’s got a over 1megapixels on it’s CCD.  I’m guessing that’s about 3 times more than most video cameras.  I’m not sure how that translates into the image on the video tape.  It would seem to me that as it’s using DIGITAL VIDEO it would have to store the image in a standard resolution.  But, the camera was one other feature that definitely does use 1megapixels and that is the ability to take still image shots onto Sony Memory Sticks.

I never understood why Sony had not come out with a digital still camera that is a merger of their small video cameras and their digital still technology.  They had nifty digital video cameras like the DCR-PC1 with 10x optical zoom and upto 6.5 hours battery life.  All they needed to do was take OUT the video parts and put in digital still camera parts and they’d have something that beats the pants off everything in the market.  It would be small, have a tilt screen, 10x optical zoom, 6+ hour battery life.  In short it would kick butt.

Well the DCR-PC10 almost does that.  I say almost because it’s not really a digital still camera. It doesn’t have all the features for setup up a still shot that a digital still camera would have.  It’s also about a year behind in terms of resolution.  Current digital still cameras all have 2 megapixel CCDs.  This camera only has half as many pixels.

Still, I needed a video camera and the still capability seemed pretty cool so I got one.

Here are some random pictures I took as soon as I received the camera.  Click on any picture to see the original as taken off the memory card from the camera.

These are a couple of stuffed toys on top of my monitor at work.  Default settings

This is one of my co-workers, Bruce.  He is standing about 12 feet away and I’m zoomed in to see is face.  We were indoors in a room with some reflected sunlight

This is a singer out on the 3rd Street Promenade in Santa Monica.  I manually adjusted the brightness pretty high in order to see the details on his face.  Without adjusting the brightness his face became too dark to see.  If you look at the large image you will see a magenta ghost around much of the image.  I guess I would have to assume this has to do with adjusting the brightness much to high for the bright background

Here is picture from the same place but zoomed all the way out so you can get an idea of where I was standing and this is with the brightness set to back to the default auto-adjust mode.

Here are some palm trees.  This was an attempt to get a little detail from zooming.

This is also a zoomed picture of one of the flags hanging over the promenade.

These are my friends Evan and Danny.  I included this picture just as your average "snapshot" type of picture.  This was taken in the entrance to the local Toys R Us and shows the "standie" for the game we had just shipped.  CTR: Crash Team Racing.

This again is a zoomed in picture of a crosswalk sign.  Again I had to manually adjust the brightness fairly high because of the bright background and again I got an unacceptable blurry purple glow. 

I think the verdict is still out on whether or not this is a great camera.  I’ll be taking it on vacation in the next few months so I’ll post more pictures from this camera in the following months.  For now though it’s clear it’s not going to replace my DSC-F55K for still shots.


Some questions I’ve been asked about this camera.

Q: Do I like it.

A: Yes.  As a video camera I like it.  As a still camera I’m going to stick with real still cameras.  I recently got a Sony DSC-F505K which takes much much better still pictures

Q: Which battery to get?

A: I have both the smallest and the largest but I pretty much find that I only use the smallest.  It really depends and how you are going to use the camera.  I find that I rarely fill a tape on one outting.  One tape is 60 minutes in SP.  The small battery lasts about 120 minutes.  Still I carry the large one just in case I need it.

Q: How do I get the still pictures into my computer?

A: I have a laptop computer and so I purchased the Memory Stick PCMCIA adapter.   It’s a standard adapter so Windows 95/98 comes with drivers for it to work (ie, no drivers come with the adapter).  As far as the computer is concerned it’s exactly the same as a CompactFlash adapter so I’m assuming it would work on a Mac too.  I also have a USB card reader at work.  The Antec Photochute 3.  It works fine there too.  There is also a Floppy Adapter for the Memory Stick.  It is PC only at the moment.

Q: Have I edited video digitally and what do I need to edit

A: Yes, I have done this.

Under Windows 98 you probably have alot more options. As I run Windows NT I had to go with more expensive options. I purchased the DPS Spark (about $500) from Safe Harbor (a web mail order place) if I was to do it again I think I would buy the Pinnacle Systems DV300. It’s the same hardware (both systems use the Adaptec 8945) but the DV300 comes with a full copy of Adobe Premier. The DPS Spark comes with their proprietary software.&
nbsp; Note: Safe Harbor does not take returns for incompatibility according to their website.

After that I had to get a FAST scsi drive. Your hard drive has to allow writing of I think at least 4meg per second or it will not be able to keep up with the data coming out of the camera. I got my drive from Buy.com. Here’s the number from the order.

9.1GB SCSI ULTRA2 WIDE LVD LP ULTRASTAR 10KRPM 80PIN 18LZX

It’s a 10gig drive. 10gig is enough space for about 50 minutes of video. Note that to EDIT video you need space for editing so you can probably only edit about 25 minutes of video on a 10 gig drive. Also note that I needed an 80pin to 68pin adapter to connect that drive to the DPS Spark. I got the adapter at Fry’s, a local computer store.  One thing about hard drives.  Most video editing hardware companies will recommend Seagate hard drives.  I will personally NEVER buy Seagate ever again.  One time one of their drives died on me.  Most hard drive companies will ship you a replacement overnight if you cover it with a credit card.  Seagate would NOT.   As such I could not use my computer for an entire month as I waited for them to fix my drive.  In other words I was OUT OF BUSINESS FOR ONE MONTH BECAUSE OF SEAGATE.   DO NOT BUY SEAGATE!

You will also need some books on editing for CD. I personally captured some video and put it on a CD but then I found that some of my friends PCs were not fast enough to play back the video (I made it kind of large). I’m sure there are some books or websites that go over what formats, compression types, data rates, etc are best for CD-ROM.

I know that for Windows 98 there are I-Link/1394 cards that are less than $100 but I don’t know what software they come with or if they are actually fast enough to capture the video. I would assume that even if you go with one of the cheaper cards you will still need a faster hard drive.  Also, do not get the Adaptec 8920.  It’s "for still captures only"  Personally I think it’s the same hardware that’s on the 8945 but Adaptec will not support video capture on that board even if it does seem to work.


Well I’ve made my decision about the PC100.  As a VIDEO camera I have no complaints.  It’s been great.  It’s small, easy to use.  As a DIGITAL video camera it’s great.  I’ve had no problems pulling video into my computer, editing it and putting it back on tape.  But, as for it’s use as a still camera it’s complete CRAP.  I’m pretty angry about this. Sony should have done better.

I’ve owned quite a few digital still cameras.  Starting with the original Apple Quicktake upto the Sony DSC-F505 and inbetween the Sony DSC-F1, Kodak 210, Epson 600, Nikon Coolpix 900, and the Sony DSC-F55k.

Of all those cameras the PC100 is the by far the worst of the bunch taking the worst pictures.  I print quite a few of my pictures for various projects and the results from the PC100 are so bad as to be unusable.  Here’s an example

Sony DCR-PC100

Sony DSC-F505

click on either pictures for the full size version taken directly from the camera.

It may not be clear what’s wrong with the PC100 picture from these small thumbnails.  If you look at the full size pictures you’ll see lots of blotchiness in the PC100 picture.  I don’t know whether or not this blotchiness comes from a bad CCD (ie, bad electronics) or bad software (ie, the compressor in the PC100 is bad)  What’s even stranger is that the PC100 file is 26K LARGER than the F505 picture and yet the F505 pictures has almost twice as many pixels.  1600×1200 vs 1152×864

This is particularly noticeable in the blue channel of the picture.

Sony DCR-PC100

Sony DSC-F505

All that blotchiness gets even more exaggerated in printouts.

This is pretty upsetting especially since the DSC-F505 does so well.  Both products are made by Sony.  You’d think they’d just put the compression software from their other digital still cameras into the PC100.

For me this basically makes the PC100 useless as a still camera.  That brings up the question, is this camera worth the extra price.  For example the Canon Elura is alot cheaper.  $1250 vs $2000  The Canon does not have the still picture option but if that option is useless then what’s the point of paying an extra $750 for it.  For that price you can buy most of the current still cameras out there and can get better pictures at a higher resolution.  Maybe Sony will come out with a firmware upgrade to fix the compression problems?  I hope so.

  • greggman
    Low-Light

    I have noticed a feature that I would like though I don’t know any video camera that has it and that is "spot metering".

    The PC100 does pretty good in low light, but the problem is, and I’m sure this is true with almost all video cameras, it has to decide on how to expose the image. It does this by looking at the average brightness of the entire image. this is not always the best thing. For example if you are filling a man on a stage, generally the stage is much darker than the performer with all the lights just on him. The camera though will see all the black and over expose the image (when it’s on auto-brightness mode). My Digital Still Camera has a spot mode where on the display it will put a little crosshair in the center of the screen and it will only use that spot to determine the correct brightness. It would be cool if a video camera had this feature.

    The PC100 does have manual brightness control. The problem is, at least on my PC100, I adjust the brightness so that it looks good on the camera’s LCD screen and I film. Then I get home and look at the video on my TV and it’s under or over exposed. Of course if I did it more often I’m sure I could figure out where I should set it in those cases

  • judd
    i was planning on getting the dcr-pc110 but after your article, having 2nd thoughts until i see it work. thanks.
  • numbnai
    pc100

    Bought camera delivered to my door 1400.00 so I do not feel to bad about the bad still pictures that I have not taken much of yet . I have not owned a video or digital camera before the pc100
    The video play back on my tv from the pc100 is very clear. thank you for your post . I have not been able to get my computer to read the memory stick through the serial port .I was going to invest in some software and hardware to transfer the still pictures to my pc. I won’t waste my
    time. Can you recomend a digital still camera in the 500$ range ?

  • greggman
    Try reading dpreview.com

    http://www.dpreview.com

    They have some nice reviews. It really depends one what you are looking for. All cameras have pluses and minuses. I really wish there was one that did it all but I haven’t see it yet.

    A couple of my friends have the Canon S10 and Canon S20 and I also got one for my mom. It’s relatively small. Consider it a point an shoot camera. The S10, if you can find it, is about $350. The S20 is about $540.

    But, getting a digital camera is not as simple as that. First, in order for it to be useful you are going to need a bigger memory card than comes with the camera. Expect to spend at least $150 on that. And some cameras, the Canon S10 and S20 for example, don’t come with the battery so that’s an extra $80 to $120.

    After that you need a CD burner or some way to back up your picutres. It would really suck for your hard drive to crash and you to lose all your pictures. A CD burner is about $150-$200. I think a CD burner is the best way to go because you can put the CDs in anybody’s computer AND you can use cool software like Thumbs to share them ;-)

    Still, with that said here’s a run-down of MY camera costs last year.

    I took 3000 pictures with my digital camera last year. Assuming a 24 exposure roll of film costs $10 per roll to buy and develop that would have been $1250 (I think that figure is low though) + plus a camera, lets assume $100 for the camera. I know you can go cheaper but a Canon Elph is $300 so I think $100 is fair + I made at least 31 CDs for friends each of which had a minimum of 150 pictures on it. For example Evan, Ricky, Scott, Sao, etc. for our Trip to Japan, My trip to Hawaii, Our Trip to the Grand Canyon, trips to Disneyland. In all that’s at least another 4650 pictures. I don’t know the price in the U.S. but here, individual re-prints are 33cents each so that’s another $1782 just in copying costs if I had gone the paper route vs $31 for 31 blank CDs.

    So, total cost of regular camera
    $3132

    Total cost of Digital camera.
    $1100 camera (Sony DSC-F505)
    $300 2 64meg memory sticks (about 120 pictures each)
    $250 CD burner
    $31 Blank CDs
    $80 ThumbsPlus (software)
    ——
    $1761

    I saved $1371 not to mention that I recorded a hell of a lot more of my life because I wasn’t conserned about wasting film with my digital camera. That’s also a low figure. I made far more than 31 CDs and there were usually far more than 150 images. In fact the Japan trip there were probably more like 500 images or more.

    But that’s just me. If I had used a film camera I probably wouldn’t have taken nearly as many pictures so it’s not quite a fair comparison but I think taking more pictures is a good thing and with a digital camera, the more pictures you take the cheaper it becomes.

  • greggman
    Underwater Sony Cameras

    Some guy sent me e-mail asking about underwater Sony Cameras but his e-mail address was wrong so I’m posting the response here.

    As far as I know, Sony doesn’t make underwater cameras.  What they make are underwater cases for their regular cameras.  I couldn’t find them on the Sony America site but this site carries some of them

    Otherwise all the cases are on this page listed on the right

  • anon_philipp
    stills from video

    Is it possible to transfer single frames from the video to the memory-stick and then over the serial cable to a computer?

    wbr

    Philipp

  • anon_Zardoz

    Sadly, this can’t be done. You’d have to use Premiere or Aftereffects or Virtualdub after capturing the stream.

  • srinivas
    I urgently want to buy a camera with both features of video and still pictures

    As i am planning to visit switzerland shortly can you recommend a good camera with video and still pictures.

    Matter urgent pl