I just finished watching the anime series Neon Genesis Evangelion. To anybody remotely interested in Anime I’d really REALLY recommend you check it out. It’s considered by many to be a ground breaking in Japanese anime. The author of the series was a suicidal manic depressive while he wrote it so it expresses alot of this personal problems and feelings through it’s story.
One of the types of things that makes Japanese anime generally stick out from American cartoons is that, where as American cartoons are usually meant to be light entertainment many Japanese anime are very serious with very deep topics. Not all of them but even the fluffier ones often deal with much more mature topics then found in American cartoons.
I will warn you that the ending of the series is generally disliked. There are 26 episodes each about 22 minutes long. The original series stopped at episode 24. The Japanese fans were so upset that 2 more episodes were made to explain a little more. I’m not sure the series is better with or without the extra last 2 episodes.
But, the trip to those last 2 episodes are pretty darn entertaining. I found that after the first few episodes I was dying to watch the next and the next.
I watched in Japanese though which means I didn’t get all the same meaning out of it as if I had had subtiles or English. I’d really recommmend you go out and rent them. I think if you do you’ll find you get hooked after a few episodes. I think I’d recommend it with subtitles if you can find it (probably you can’t though unless you read the DVDs). The reason is it’s hard for me to imagine that the dubbed version could have as perfect screams of rage and terror that the main character often needs to express.
If that last sentence scares you off let me explain. *spoiler warning* The series is about future world where mysterious forces are trying to destroy earth and/or part of Japan. Japan has a high tech defense system based on giant robots that are controlled by getting inside a special capsule (think torpedo) which is then filled with a fluid and inserted into the robot. Control is by direct mind link (and a few handles). Anyway, in the first episode the main character is put in one of the robots (which can only mind sync with 14 year old kids) and he doesn’t really want to be there. He nearly gets killed and you don’t see the battle. The next episode he wakes up in the hospital with no memory of what happened or how he survived. Through flashbacks you find out that when he was within an inch of dying he went beserker (mad with rage) and the screams from the voice actor for those scenes fit perfectly. I suspect they don’t on the dubbed version.
I'd saw that Neon Genesis Evangelion screw with your head towards the end! Now, I had the unfortunate part of viewing it dubbed but I did see the very last episode in subtitled…fansubbed at that. I was pretty pissed at the way the ended it originally cause it just didn't make sense! 'Course, the additional 2 episodes didn't really help much.
So much for a "happily ever after" ending!
Yup, that's the very same site that I went to right after I watched the last episode! I just had to find more info on it cause stuff didn't make sense!
As far as the inconsistency, it seems to me that it is the people that take a manga story and turn it into an anime series, that's where the inconsistency starts. They fool around with the story and change things,…things that the original creator never intended in the story.
I know what you mean. I didn't like the end either. In fact I wanted to fast foward through it as pratically the whole last episode is one long no story scene. But, after I read some other webpages I was a little more happy with it.
I think it was this one where I *gained enlightenment*
If it wasn't there it was in one of these pages.
The fans I think often read too much into the story. Japanese anime is famous (or should I say infamous) for not being consistent and yet the fans are always trying to make sense of everything even if the authors never gave a thought to consistency. Maybe they did in Evangelion, I don't really know but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't. Still, as I said, I really enjoyed the ride and *warning small spoiler alert* it's not so much different than a Arthur C. Clarke ending (which I generally don't like either)
Evangelion is a great series, but I was left staring at the tv wondering what the hell I just saw. *quick spoiler* Everyone at nerv popped when those clones or whatever the hell they are touched them! What does that mean? And I never did understand how the whole adam and eve thing works anyway. After thwy have a child, who does the child have a baby with… Nevermind, whole different story.
I don稚 know much about the series but I致e seen the movie. What a lot of people don稚 realize is that its all based on the bible. I知 no expert so ill just list the things that make me think that. The name Evangelion I think is some sort of order of angels in the bible. In the movie you see a crucified monster of some kind and a lot of crosses at one point. Every time someone dies in the film the woman with purple hair appears for a split second (I cant remember many of the characters names, sorry) I think this could possibly be something like the angel of death coming to pick them and bring them to the after life. Another thing is that the albino girl wipes out all the life on the world in form of a large angel like creature. This could well be referring to the end of the world: the apocalypse also called Armageddon. During the apocalypse in the bible there is a giant angel featured (I致e forgotten what it did though. I think it said something that couldn稚 be written down.) And right at the end of the movie the main character and the red haired girl are the only survivors. The new Adam and Eve perhaps? Also the creatures they fight are called 殿ngels� but I知 afraid I can稚 think why.
eva is a tremendously in-depth study of the human psyche, approaching everything from a very zen like angle but also throwing in the plot of the dead sea scrolls and the whole “god/man” thing. i believe it pulls this off to a tee and after watching the series back to back 5 times on DVD i vaguely understand the last two epps. to say they were created to “explain” a bit more of the story is rediculous as they serve only to cloud the waters further. i believe them to be final case studies of the main characters to delve further into the psychological theme running through the whole series, also they raise more interesting points about the nature of reality. (the zen thing again). take it for what it is; the conspiricy sub-plot is the hardest thing to understand in eva, the rest is just rhetoric.
The TV Series Episodes 25 and 26 are stupid, do not watch them… instead find the END OF EVANGELION movie.
Jamas seems to be on the right track with his/her statement.
There are MANY religious symbols used in Evangelion. (“Evangelion” means to spread the word of God). Adam (first Human) is the name of the first Angel. And all the other Angels are of Adam. Lilith (Adam’s first wife) is the name of the second angel (the one crucified). Etc.
Every time someone dies in EoE, REI shows up and takes them away. Rei merges with Lilith to become “God” (Rei has Adam’s Embryo inside of her) Adam and Lilith (Soul and Body) become one, to form “God”. Rei is this new “God”. This is why she takes everyone away, to become one with the primordial soup (SP?). She also gives Shinji the choice to either “Evolve” back to the primordial soup, or to live with Asuka on Earth, as the new “Adam and Eve” to re-populate Mankind.
When you see Rei (as god) and all the green crosses, this symbolizes all the death around the world, everyone on earth is dead, and becomes one with the primordial soup, except Shinji and Asuka.
It is, in a way, Armeggedon, but also a Rebirth for the Human Race.
to answer Jamas’ post, “During the apocalypse in the bible there is a giant angel featured (I’ve forgotten what it did though. I think it said something that couldn’t be written down.)” the bringer of the Apocolypse in the book of revelations, is the Anti-christ, Satan’s son. Who has a bunch of heads and snake’ish something er-other.
Basically, Rei merges with Lilith to become God, while Lilith (in Unit01’s DNA) and the Staff of Longinus merge to become the Tree of Life. Rei (as god) takes everyone in the world, and moves them up the tree of life, to return them to “Heaven”.
Rei gives Shinji the choice to either return to “Heaven” or to become the new Adam, and have Asuka as the new Eve. So that they may re-populate the human race.
so the third-impact is infact a Death and Rebirth, and also Alpha and Omega (Omega and then Alpha actually)…
Hope that clearifies some things.
The aditional two episodes didn’t help?!?! I can understand if you peoplr where bored wuth the origonal ending, even though I enjoyed it myself, but the fact that most of you seem unphased with “The End of Eva” is just INSANE.
The perfect apocollipse; great plotline, action and character development; everyone gets their turn in the spotlight; all the characters get whats coming to them, in someof the most twisted ways posible (plus a briliant musical score)
Anyway, enough of bitching. I think that the Rey’s apearing before people die represent who the person trult wants to be with. BRILIANT ENDING
TOTAL SPOILER,
I DONT WANT TO RUIN THIS FOR ANYONE, AS IT DOES MESS WITH YOUR MINES
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someone said that shinjis choice was to become the new adam… and, from what i gatherered, he chose this. however, when this came to be, he did also choose to choke his eve, and she died(he did also cry at this part)…. so my conclusion is one of two things…. he a. decided that his trial of being the new adam was weather or not he let eve live(which in a sence is “bibleocly correct” in the aspect that man decides what happens(hence the fruit in the garden, and the reprecussions for doing so… which ment no more eden.). therefor, he denied eve, and things went straight to heaven, or wherever things go. or b.. possibly that shinji is a very hard person to read, because he cannot make up his own mind.. hence threwout the series, his random beserker states (physically, but mostley emotionally), and illogical states. he is still immature(i would say child, but many people are *childish* even in their adulthood, myself included) he cannot make up his mind, on what he needs, or wants… while they attempt to solve this in the origional endings, and threwout the episodes… pshycologically i belive, that he could not truely prevail in this situation.. he might decide yes, but change his mind soon after. in such circumstances(divine mandate), indecision is an auto fail.. he could have decided that he wanted a new adam and eve, but when he actually comprehended the situation he could not handle it, and was once again contradicted what he once thought to be true. so he choked his new *eve*. therefore comdeming himself to his own hell. by that i mean that he would truely be all alone. as there were no other people in existance at that time. the hell that in which which he constantly lived in… not only because of the circumstances he was given, but moreso how he perceived everyone as distrusting, or that he was simply not good enough for the praise of others.. or the praise of himself…. this idea was presented multiple times threwout the show, especially in the last two origional episodes(which sucked a lot, i admit.. however, when you look deep into them… they do give a moral to the story.. as weak as it may be, for arguement sake, they do have merit to my second opinion of the ending) if i lost you sorry, but his selfimage was very bad, he hated every thing he did… at first the origonal ending was pretty much saying that shinji could feel good, and live… however this did not explain ANY OF THE THINGS that were presented during the “catchy” part of the story.
perhaps one could think of this… man was created in gods image… if mankind was created in mans image… and that man didnt know what he wanted… what image does mankind have? a constantly changing one, which seems as if it will eventually self destruct(which the choking of the german chick could represent).. which is also presented on multiple levels in this series. hence the destruction of the angels, however when “the enemy” is destroyed, man will once agian become its own enemy.
at the end of the movie, i had to think a lot about what happened, to understand it.. however i did know one thing.. i love humanity.. i have for a while, despite the petty disputes that everyone makes into a huge deal.. the ultimate goal is happyness… at the ending of this series(movie included) i watched the last 5 minutes of “end of evangelion” again to attempt to understand what happened… as i was left in shock, beleiving(and still doing so) that he picked the end of man because “he didnt like it” i felt eye on me… i turned around, and my g/f, who had been asleep, was stairing at me, witha smile… this sounds like total cheese, but it is infact the total truth. i have to say, if my g/f was my eve, and that was my decision.. i would infact continue man, with hopes for a better tommarow… it may fail, however… if the “Legend” of evangelion were true, i belive that the decision that was up to me, would one day be passed on to another, until one finally decides that mankind needs to accend into heaven.
*personal disclaimer* i was raised christian(i dont believe anymore in religion, and am agnostic) however, i will not deny, that my early upbringing could have possably alterted how i view the events which happened in this series. on the other hand, i will fully embrace a love for fellow members of mankind, as was shown to me perfectly(timing, and everything) by my gf. i hope you enjoy the show, sorry if i babbled a bit too much.
Question??????—-If the END of EVANGELION was the *END*……..What is the Live Action Movie going to be about????? And if Asuka was the new EVE why did she have Rei’s injuries and Misato’s eyes????
ok everyone, one reason that shinji killed asuka could be really anything because the maker of Neon Genesis was a bit ‘messed up in the head’ too. but how i see his final choice of choking asuka is because he is not ‘all there’. as everyone can tell, he suffers from depression. which also could be from the simple fact that that he hates/hated his poppa since he was a little kid. and also the point that he was also under an extreme amount of stress. i mean seriously, if the fate of literally everything was in ur hands, u just found out that have 47,000 copies of the same sister, u have had to protect the world from constant attacks of funky ‘angels that want to kill everything’, and ur going through puberty, that would have a dramatic change of how ANYONE would be thinking. of course im sure that a lot of us wouldnt kill the only female left in exsistance, but since shinji was a few colors short of a rainbow and the only way he could probably get rid of his stress was by killing a 14 year old german girl with tits the size of a supermodel/wrapped up like a copy of one of ur sisters/has the eyes of a 30 year woman who french kissed you.
all im really sayin is, remember that shinji has a lot of mental problems… or hes just a spaz… THE END
why did everyone say auska died? her eye moves at the end and she is heard saying “disgusting”….. why?! why is she disgusted? is it simply her childish self showing through?
is it really auska?! or is it a representation of all 3 of his favourite ladies? he was adam, and I’m pretty sure they would make his eve…?
enlighten me, thanks, xX
first of all I own the whole searies on DVD, VHS, and manga. I also have both the movies. If you understand the last to episodes then drop what your doing and apply to be a phycologist. “End of EVA” is about as fucked as a snake in a lawnmower. But for me, a non-believer but ex-christian, it did make alot of sense. In the movie the end is started by a 14-15 year old boy. then right after he gets his game face on he sees Asuka’s eva torn to shreads by the eva searies, the lipped face evas that have no eyes. Then he gets crusified. Then we she ubber Rie. Man she looks like some giant marsh mellow. Do you think the bringer of death should be a marsh mellow? So then you see the end of the world scene with happy music playing in the back.When comes to the end of the movie, I don’t see why yall say Asuka is dead, her eye moves and she saya disgusting. I think that statement means how Shingi was at that moment and through the searies. Or it could just be Asuka was pissed off about the fact that the boy who jacked off over her nacked comitos body on her. You decide for yourself. And who said Asuka had to be Eve, she might be another Lilith. I think Asuka is all three of the girls Shinji liked. The eye color and wounds show that.
NOTE: these are just my views, I have nothing to do with GAINAX.
He wasn’t tryinng to kill her
He was tryng to make her breathe again
And that’s wy at the bery end she is still alive
hello every1! ok well here is the ending of evangelion in my eyes:
Let me just get this one thing strait. Shinji and Rei cant ever work out. Ok look Rei has the genes of Shinjis mother. Well in the manga Asuka says so i bet you and Rei are going out and in his head he says “i cant explain rei with ‘like’ or ‘wanna go out with’ shes more like a part of me that has been missing.” You see his mother was dead and his father never loved him back, so the part that was missing was his parents love. Thats where Rei comes in. She is like his mother, she is the part thats missing like his mother. Also Rei says she is the hope in Shinjis heart.
Ok well glad i got that clear and another thing:
ASUKA IN THE END IS NOT MISATO+REI+HER PUT TOGETHER! geez look, in the dark people with blue eyes, their eye color turns grey. I saw her eyes that how they look when theirs darkness, if u havent payed attention in EoE, Shinji is on top of her, his shadow covers her eyes. Theirfore her eyes are grey, because of light being blocked from them. Ok Asuka is the women that Shinji wanted to be with. Like he said he was scared of Rei and Misato. So he looked to Asuka for that extra push and that drive that she has. The reason Asuka puts her hand on his face is for two reasons in my opinion.
1. Asuka has grown throughout the series. She has matured…ALOT!
2. Asuka is telling Shinji that this is real. That this is reality he is in.
See he chokes Asuka to make sure this is real. Knowing Asuka she wouldnt let Shinji choke her (come on its Asuka) So, instead of smacking him she gentle coreses his face with her hand, much like Shinjis mother. He relizes the gentle thing that Asuka does, and he stops. She says disgusting because either:
1. She remembers when he masturbated.
2. She thinks its disgusting that hes crying like a baby. That he is breaking down.
Another reason he chokes Asuka i think is because he sees Rei for a split second. Remember? Rei was the alter-reality or the ”heaven” So he choked Asuka to see if it was truly real.
I kinda sorta support the Adam and Eve theory. But through out the whole Eva Series they didnt once mention anything about a Eve. But through out the Eva Series they mentioned things like “angels and Adam” and other miscellaneous biblical terms.
Also i partially think that Eva was about Christin themes. But i think it mostly derived from Kabbalah. If you want to know about Kabbalah than go to. http://www.kabbalah.com Kabbalah is about questioning ones existance, much questioned in Evangelion.
And he didnt kill Asuka. At least im pretty sure. Look he does go through berserker states, but i think the reason he cried is because Instead of slapping him for choking her (or trying to kill her) she gently touched his face, much like his mother did. I never thought of this but… Maybe Yui was trying to tell Shinji that it was all right and to have hope by having Asuka touch his facing then letting him remember that his mother touched his face the same way. Wow i never thought of that… Hm… Well anyway she was alive. He cried because he felt bad for trying to choke the one person that believed in him. Go up to read the reasons why Asuka may have said disgusting.
Asuka was alive because she had the will to live. Her Sync rate with her Eva was 100%, but she had the will to live. Much like Rei said to Shinji. Rei said “If you have the will to live, you will be reborn and live.” I think Yui said it to. Thats why Rei said, becasue Yui said it. Rei has the genes of his mother. His mother is the hope in his heart and so is Rei. And Kowaru (i dont know how to spell it ^.^) Lol ok well, hes the I Love You in Shinji’s heart. Kowaru was their to show Shinji that people can and do love him , that he isnt all alone and that he shouldnt close himself off from people. But anyway Before Asuka took on those 9 Eva’s (which was very awesome) She was saying over and over again. “I dont want to Die” Because she had the will to live. Asuka dosent want to die. Please what would Asuka be if she wanted to die?!?
Ok if anyone has questions about the end where everyone turned into LCL. Well LCL is the soup of life (as Rei puts it). It is the lowest or first stage of man. The reason they turn into LCL is because they are turning into ther original form. They are going to heaven. Thats why they exploded into LCL and the reason Rei is their is because, either she is helping them turn into LCL or she just likes to see people explode into orange liquid. We will never know…
And one of you said that you should be a phycologist if you get EoE well all you have to do in search it on google and read what other people think about the EoE, and then watch the movie and gather what you think is right. Once you read what other people have to say that you know what to look for in the anime. So then you can look carefully and while doing so , you gather your own analysis.
Also i know i said that Shinji dosent kill Asuka but here is a theory for if he did. Shinji may have killed Asuka for a mental reason. The person that actually opens up and says “I love you” he has to kill him, then the person that gave him his first grown up kiss dies, then he finds out that Rei loves his father and that his father absolutely shows no love once so ever toward him and then the one person that always pushes him foward is telling him that he dosent understand her and that she hates him. Poor Shinji has experienced mental issues in his life for so long (Much like Anno). So maybe he did kill Asuka, but im at least 99.9% sure that he didnt. But just for all you people who believe so their was a logical explanation for why he may of killed Asuka.
Here is another argument. Rei is not God! I repeat REI IS NOT GOD! It even says in the anime that Shinji has become God. And that everyone and Everything rests in his hands. Rei isnt the one who can decide on the third impact, Shinji is. Because Shinji is God.
Ok im doen arguing. I hope i have helped some of you if you were confused about EoE.
Thank you and have a nice day.
~SHINJI + ASUKA!!~
Ok sorry im back again with another comment. Ok well also Asuka has the bandages because she got stabbed in the eye. I think her eye was detached. So thats why she has the bandage in her eye. Also she has the bandage in her arm because she got stabbed in the arm. But i bet your wondering , if she got reborn dont you think she wouldnt have any scares? ok well yes indeed she was reborn but the first wounds she got were the eye and the arm. Also you may be asking yourself or yelling out loud, but when Rei’s second third clone came out, she had no bandages. Thats can be easily answered. Rei is a clone, if you havent noticed she has about 100 more copies of her or more. And if you havent noticed all are which unharmed. But Asuka dosent have any clones. She is just Asuka so, when she gets harmed not all of her is going to be brand spanking new. Well just thought i might get that out of the way. If you have any comments that IM at fourizle on AIM or IM at nicolacocacola on Yahoo or you can just email me. Well ttyl.
Mucho <3
*Terra*
I watched Neon Genesis Evangelion about 3 years ago. All 26 episodes plus the End of Evangelion I just watched right now. I’ve read the comments left by a few of the members here and it is quite intriguing the views all of you had. I love how deep this series is, the passion that the characters possess is tremendous. I believe this to be the best psychological anime there is, hands down. Even though you might be expecting from me my opinion of what the series has offered we also need to consider that there is no answer. That maybe the story is imperfect and that the author is the only person that can adequatly explain the message he was trying to convey. We need to take into consideration that there is no message and that the series is just a fucked up story from a fucked up mind. Even though I have said this, I do want to understand EXACTLY what the author is trying to tell us. I just find it best to look at all sides of the problem. I know this is a thread from 4 years ago, but just as I have found it today for the first time, others will find it when they google search for Evangelion Explanation.
I bored the end from my friend and I must say it was pretty good and kind of confuseing for me atleast .. Now Asuka died ( i think heh ) and then was reborn ? my question is i guess , is that the REAL Asuka or not.
wuzaat mm well i can speak a lot of english so if i make mstakes with some words dat i can write correctly it´s not my fault, mm i´ve find some interesting things about evangelion, well first i was intriged about de longenius thing (i don´t know if i wrote it well but i think it´s ok), well ´cause the series it´s involved in religous themes first i search in the bible about da longeenius stick or guareva, well i don´t know if yu know dat the soldier who gives da final strike to Jesus when He was in da croos was called longenis or longenius or guareva da thing it´s dat the roman soldiern and da stick dat appeared in evangelon have da same name, another thing it´s dat in one of da old civilization, were described 4 demons mm like da 4 angles of da apocalypse well in da dscription da firs was a demon with a big horn(eva 01) the other was a demon with one eye(eva 00) the other one was a four eyes with blood skin(eva 01) and da last one was a demon black with long arms(eva 03) i don´t know if the creator of evangelion took these description to create da evas, another thing dat it´s very visible i´t´s da name of MAGY, da 3 mans who give Jesus mm presents when He was born. let me see i think i´ve missed something ahhhhhh the story of lilith well lilith apparentaly was da first woman, yes she was before eve, ´cause she was evil, God send her away, in one page i´ve found dat lilith it´s da first vampire, well ahh and well the stick of longenius or guareva, was incrusted in her chest to stop her growing, dat´s very visible in da episode were rei took da stick and lilith begun to regenerate. i have a point of view about guat the creator of evangelion try to say, well the angels are da enemys right? well da angels are the messengers of God, maybe guat da creator meant putting da angels as d bad ones, was dat the angels were trying to avoid dat the humans becaame God, maybe in da series da human are da bad ones and da angels are da good ones, another thing it´s dat da las two episodes r complemmented with da movie “rebirth and death of evangelion”, actually in da movie asuka don´t die, we can see dat se bleeds froms her eye and her arm it´s dstroyed, but maybe the creator did dat to explain how asuka fell ´cause she get a huge connection wit the eva, it´s like mm a metaphor maybe well thanks 4 read all of this XD mm i hope dat i didn´t make a lot of mistakes mm write or mm well here´s my msn estkorreonoexys@hotmail.com let´s get in touch see ya in hell
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My take on the End of Evangelion ending:
Im pretty sure Human Instrumentality(or whatever its called) is intended to somehow help humanity survive the third impact (armageddon). The Eva’s purpose in this is to act and an ark to help humanity survive the impact. Eva unit 01 is actually reffered to being an “ark” in EoE. When Human Instrumentality takes place everyone on earth dies except Shinji who is still alive (or at least his concousness is) inside Eva unit 01. WHen the whole combination of the mass production series/eva unit 01/shinji becomes the Tree of Life someone mentions that it is equivalent to god in power. So I interpreted this all as meaning that Shinji was now basically God. So now shinji has the ability to recreate the earth and in fact recreate it exactly as it was prior to the third impact and everyone could live happily ever after, but he makes it a world with only him and asuka on it. And i think the point here is taht he sort of made a teenage boys dirty dream world, and given this he is leaning over asuka (much like at the beginning in the hospital) but instead of taking advantage of her, he is so fucked up and so emotionally depressed and whatever else that he chokes her. WHen she wakes up she says the ambiguous “how disgusting” (though this varies with translation) which I think is supposed to show that she is disgusted by the fact that she is essentially in shinji’s perverted dream. and thats all there is to it
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I only read the last comments and it really sucks… Did you know, that there were not just jap. fans which were pissed, he got letters of people who wanted to kill him, beacuse he didn’t end NGE, but fuck he did! It’s really pity, that there a so mush dumb people who don’t understand anything. It’s an end, you just need to concentrate on the dialogs with the last angel and create your own opinion. And that the ends he did, didn’t help you does wonder you? It’s kinda revange against all these suckers who cried for an ending. Now my comment: Watch every episode very detailed, concentrate on every dialog und think about it, then you will find your own ending and not the one, which is presented to you. This are only few words. Let me give an example: The “monster” down in the center isn’t Adam! It’s Lilith and the fifteens angel calls the humans Liliam, so look what’s meant by this and find your own solution for NGE, the one the Autor would prefer, just think…
oh goddamit.
I wasted 16 hours watching this crap to just find out that they just reinact the revelations…..with a twist. A massive twist, i might add.
Ah crap, if I could, I would warn the lucky souls who HAVEN’T watched Evangelion NOT to go anywhere NEAR Evangelion!!! It has got to be the show with the #1 WORST ENDING!!! (yeah yeah, I watched the “End of Evangelion too)
I truly believe what people in the posts above said: the creater of this show is one messed up dumbshit!! ….and I think that he should never have been giving a chance to create anything while being depressed/sad/retarded! oooooooh how I’d love to squash him like a cockroach! Then stop on him repeatedly to make sure he never makes another piece of entertaintment ever again!
You know what truly pisses me off in any show/movie? its when the IDIOT creator makes the ending so that you “decide for yourself what the ending is” or “use your imagination and create your own ending” ……FUCK!!! if I have to use MY imagination to decide for myself what the ending will be, THEN WHAT IS THE POINT OF ME WATCHING YOUR CRAP???? ….honestly all the dumbshit creator had to do was make a “…..and they lived happily everafter” if he was sooooo confused and worried about how to end this anime.
Its a shame really, Evangelion would have been a spledid anime, but it doesn’t matter how good a show/movie is: IF THE ENDING SUCKS, THEN SO DOES THE SHOW/MOVIE!!!
……..Whew, there now I can finally start getting Evangelion out of my skull…..thank you for providing me with a way to vent my frustration with it!
uh let’s do a poll.. those of you who don’t like evas.. how old are you.. and what’s your highest level of education.. and those who like eva.. how old are you.. what’s your highest level of education..
i like eva.. i’m 22 electrical engineering major in university going to grad school afterwards.. i understand 90% of the stuff in eva and it’s my favorite anime of all times.. it’s deeper than any shit i encounter on a day to day basis and i just love indulging myself in that world whenever i have time.
21 years old, still going to university.
Evangelion is my all time favorite anime. Deep psychological questions, open ended finale (that makes you think, this isn’t some no brainer crap as that sad higado2 wants it to be), spectacular battles that keeps me on the edges from start till end. Lots of animes have battles that get boring around their halftime. The Eva battles never made me bored.
As for the meaning of the ending (it was a long time when I last saw the EoE so I might remember things incorrectly, but from the things I can recall, I put this theory together):
!!!SPOILERS!!!
Yes, the angel in Terminal Dogma (I think that was the palce) was Lilith, not Adam. Adam was a giant made out of pure light. The whole idea behind the Human Instrumentality project was to give humanity the push needed to reach the next phase of evolution that cannot be reached inside our current body. The only way was to initiate the Third Impact that required Lilith and Adam (if I remember correclty, he was traped inside Rei’s body) to be connected. That fusion created the being that triggered the Third Impact, that was basicly destroying every single AT field that kept the human body together, thus releasing the human souls and fuse them together into the giant being, thus breaking down the walls that kept people from getting close to each other. Now, since Shinji and his Eva was the center of the Tree of Life, he became the one who decided if humanity should remain as one entity, or return to their formal existance and start over with the new experience they whitnessed while they were one being. Those who had the will to go back, could go back. Because of his choice the superbeing dies (damn, I still get the shivers just thinking about Rei’s face lying on the landscape).
As for Shinji trying to choke Asuka. I beleive the just got insane for a moment. Think about it. He was just around 15 years old. No wonder he gone mad after what he gone through from the begining of the series and expecially what he gone through in EoE.
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Ok.. I am just going to vent a bit cuz I feel like I wasted a chunk of my life on this series. I am all for the saying about the journey is just as enjoyable as the end of a story, but the whole thing just plain sucked BIG time. Wish I’d have known to just watch up to ep. 24 and leave it at that. Even after watching the movies and reading FAQs and your comments I still think I wasted my time.
But everyone is different, and it’s obvious the series is a big hit and have many followers. I just refuse to waste any more of my time trying to figure this stuff out and will just move on to another series.
Anyway, thanks for trying to help me make some sense out of the most abstract and ugliest piece of animation I’ve ever watched (eps 25-26 and the ending).
theres so much talk in the end about things being only the sum of how you percieve them…
it may be annoying but the end is really how you percieve it..
i think the adam eve thing makes sense and that shinji is confused at if that world is real untill asuka moved..
they probably just go on to repopulate the earth.. but i duno where theyd get food..
at any rate how can you hate NGE based on the end.. at the very least it makes you think about life, self and others..
dont be mad you were made to think… thinkings good~!
PEACE.best anime
I just skipped the confusing last two episodes and just watched the movie. The movie is like a continuation of the series. I loved the series, but just could’nt understand the last two episodes.
By the way. Does anyone know why shinji was choking the red haired chick at the end of the movie? I was totally stumped on that.
ugh look through all the comments, its soooo confusing XD. I bet the author of the series is laughing his ass off reading these, everyone has they’re own opinions. But the end is filled with a lot of religion and philosophy which takes AMAZING brain power to start to understand whats going on. My solution?
Someone get and interview with the author LOL.
For Shinji chocking Asuka, I think that he just wants to be alone, doesnt want anyone to be with him, and for that reason he attempts to kill Asuka. Thats a guess but really I have no clue why he does it, and there are mixed opinions on her at the end.
- Is that the real Asuka?
- Did Shinji Kill her?
Frankly if u havent seen the end and have read this. DONT WATCH IT.
you’ll just give youself a whole lot of worry and thinking, that will ultimately end in with a sad empty feeling with i think the author was trying to convey.
15, just finished 9th grade.
Alright, this is what i gathered from the series.
Concerning just End of Evangelion, I loved the ending. I understand why people hate that strings were left untied completely. I watched this anime about a month ago when i went through a random anime phase. This is one of the first one’s I watched and later couldn’t find another because they didn’t compare but that’s another story. From what I gathered, at the end Adam and Lillith merged creating Third Impact. Gendo Ikari intentionally started Third Impact with Rei and Lillith etc….My personal opinion is that, although she knew Third Impact must be started and completed, she didn’t want it to end that way. She was raised to love Gendo unconditionally and throughout the whole series, followed that emotion. About halfway through she sort of figures out what’s going on(I use “sort of” liberally”). I think she believed that Shinji, who acts kind of like her brother and vice versa, really cares about her(not romantically). I think this is the “birth” of her knowledge and will. When Gendo, who had spent years planning this, tries to force he to merge with Lillith, she refuses to obey him purely to refute him. Though she does merge(and the whole primordial soup thing), she goes to Shinji and Eva01 and essentionally “creates God”. By doing this, she gives Shinji, whom she trusts, to decide the fate of the world though she cannot. Though she trusts Shinji, neither of them are right in the head.(and the rest of my opinion coming from Yes! the last two EPISODES)
Shinji goes through that process. In the beginning he hates himself and others and wants a private reality. This in turn leaves the world as its soupy form. Because all conciousnesses are bounded together, Shinji is “consulted” by Misato and Asuka(who in turn go through the same thing) eventually leading Shinji to decide he doesn’t want to be alone. He wants his own body and he wants to live in a world with others. Because of his strong will to live regains his AT field(congrads!) is returned to a body. It is because he has gone through the events in the series that he is able to recover so quickly. And seeing how Asuka was heard saying over and over how she didn’t want to die, regains her body quickly as well(we did see her go through part of her psychological break down). Because she had such a strong will to live. Because they are so determined to be with others and live as normal human beings. The reason I think Shinji chocked her was, even though he decided to regan his own body, he still wasn’t mentally ready. In the end he couldn’t do and Asuka said the infamous “How disgusting”. I don’t think they are the new Adam and Eve/Lillith. I don’t believe that because there(in my opinion) was never and “apocalypse”. Humans didn’t die, they merged/lost their AT fields. They were still alive, they still had their souls. They were just all together. They all could have regained their bodies and all eventually will.
Now this is all what I gathered from watching the last two episodes and End of Evangelion. I’m pretty happy with my conclusion, I hope I helped anyone with their theories.
And on another note, I liked the last two episodes. I would have been fine without End of Evangelion. Poor Anno, he came up with a great series and the ending wasn’t good enough for people. They couldn’t have just dealt with it. Death threats are a bit much.